MMA

[gtrplyr7]

I figure we need a general MMA thread because I know folks get pissed when theres like 10 different threads..

So Cung Le dominated Frank Shamrock and broke his arm. and kicked him in the face a lot...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y112/trashbucket/cungle.jpg

and I hear Tim Sylvia is going to M-1?

[gtrplyr7]

Adrenaline MMA replaces M-1 Global; Fedor becomes a free agent


NEW YORK -- Executives at M-1 Global announced today they have started a new promotion called Adrenaline MMA and will begin promoting major events in the U.S. beginning in June.

Adrenaline will replace M-1 Global in the U.S. immediately. The change also includes the release of Russian fighter Fedor Emilianenko, who is free to seek fights elsewhere.

Monte Cox is the President and CEO of Adrenaline MMA. Bob Clark is the COO and Brian Patton is VP responsible for sponsorships and endorsements.


Adrenaline signs MMA heavyweight standouts Sylvia and Rothwell


NEW YORK -- Adrenaline MMA announced today that heavyweight stars Tim Sylvia and Ben Rothwell have signed multi-fight contracts with the newly-formed promotion.

Sylvia (24-4) is a former 2-time UFC heavyweight champion, while Rothwell (31-5) was undefeated in the IFL for the champion Quad Cities Silverbacks.

Sylvia, 6-foot-8 and 265 pounds, has fought 13 times in the UFC and defeated top performers like Jeff Monson, Andre Arlovski (twice), Brandon Vera, Ricco Rodriguez and Assuerio Silva.

"Adrenaline is a new promotion, but it allows fighters to fight for other organizations... that's huge," Sylvia said. "I've got 3 to 4 years left and want to fight as much as possible, so this is the perfect choice for me at this time."

Rothwell, 6-5 and 265, has won 13 straight bouts, including all 9 of his IFL fights.

"Adrenaline will give me the chance to take things to the next level," Rothwell said. "I'm ready to see how I fare against the best heavyweights in the world."

Sylvia and Rothwell both train at Miletich Fighting Systems in Bettendorf, Iowa.

. . .


According to MMAWeekly.com, the promotion will hold its its first event on June 14 in Chicago at the Sears Centre. Jeff Monson v. Mike Russow is already signed for the show.

[Gabe]

Shamrock is a joke, Renzo was dominating him until he got elbowed in the back of the head.

[firmdragon]

shamrock pretty much made an ass of himself.

[PJP]

fucking christ

thanks for the spoiler warning for tonights fight on the first post

[Dropping The Oppressor]

I thought it was a really entertaining fight. I'm glad Cung Le got the win.
I think that fight would have ended a lot differently if Frank wasn't being so arrogant & refused to take Cung Le down. Le has great wrestling, but Frank would have got the take down eventually and most likely submitted Cung afterwards.
Franks pride(ego) got in the way of an effective game plan.

[garrettchristmas]

man, fuck all this. did anyone see drew fickett's post-fight interview w/ jake shields?
"i predict death by rear naked choke! AHHHHH! NIGHT RIDER!"
beautiful.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Yeah, shit was comedy.

[Cardinal]

I thought it was a really entertaining fight. I'm glad Cung Le got the win.
I think that fight would have ended a lot differently if Frank wasn't being so arrogant & refused to take Cung Le down. Le has great wrestling, but Frank would have got the take down eventually and most likely submitted Cung afterwards.
Franks pride(ego) got in the way of an effective game plan.

agreed
it also seemed like he wasnt even concerned with getting knocked out, since he couldve easily be getting out of the way of cung's kicks and stuff, but just stood there.
that said, anderson silva would maul cung le still.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Anderson would close the distance and devour Cung Le's soul in the clinch. Cung Le does not like to fight in the clinch. He wants to stay on outside so he can constantly set up those kicks.

Frank didn't respect Le's power & overestimated his own.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Man, The Crypt fight camp members at MMAPlayground apparently are not fans of non-UFC events. Most of you guys haven't even made a single pick in the secondary league this season.

[garrettchristmas]

i, personally, just have forgot about it.

edit:
and supposedly these are shamrock's x-rays.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m1/superbrawl21/Shammy-2.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z153/chapmanillust_album/Shammy-2.jpg

[firmdragon]

haha oh man thats a nasty fracture.

[laqueefa]

frank didnt seem as light on his feet as usually. people may say its his ACL but even when it was blown in the baroni fight, he still had a bounce/rhythm. he looked pretty flat footed last night in comparison. i was expecting to see him dance around those kicks instead of eat them. all in all though, a way better event then the last UFC fights.

[downgrade]

Shamrock is far from a joke, but he just didn't train as hard as Cung did.

[Wally Cleaver]

http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cung-le_frank-shamrock_a.gif

Cung's leg sweep was sick. It was odd how he just casually turned away tho.

[bingle]

There's very few fighters that put on as entertaining a show as Frank. For his part, Cung Le looked solid. Much better than his previous efforts against Whoeverthefuck McCallahan and Can McCanCan.

Fickett is going to get submitted by Shields, and look like an asshole in doing so.

[Jono]

Shamrock will get a re-match and use his wrestling to win, setting up the rubber match for more money.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Fickett is going to get submitted by Shields, and look like an asshole in doing so.

I agree. Jake Shields is too much for Fickett to handle. Although Fickett is game as hell, Jake's likely got this one under wraps.

[Somehow]

Cung Le, to me, is essentially Cro-Cop at middle weight. He will continue to tear through lesser opponents until someone takes the fight to him or challenges him. That said, I think the UFC needs to take a good hard look at getting him in the org. Cung Le v. Franklin, or Cung Le v. Leben would both be excellent matches.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/cung-le_frank-shamrock_a.gif

Cung's leg sweep was sick. It was odd how he just casually turned away tho.

Two thoughts:
Cung's game plan was to not go to the ground with Shamrock. Yes he could have taken advantage of that trip and could have went in for some G&P, but why take the chance of getting caught in a bad position and give up a submission?

Also, in Cung Le's Sanshou & K-1 fights, you could trip/throw your opponents, but you could not strike them on the ground. Cung was constantly throwing his opponents, then walking to a neutral corner to wait for the action to resume. So it could have just been out of habit.

[Wally Cleaver]

Two thoughts:
Cung's game plan was to not go to the ground with Shamrock. Yes he could have taken advantage of that trip and could have went in for some G&P, but why take the chance of getting caught in a bad position and give up a submission?

Also, in Cung Le's Sanshou & K-1 fights, you could trip/throw your opponents, but you could not strike them on the ground. Cung was constantly throwing his opponents, then walking to a neutral corner to wait for the action to resume. So it could have just been out of habit.

I'm guessing the latter rather than the former. Cung it a top level wrestler. Although, Shamrock is no joke on the ground for sure. So who knows. It just looked as if it was it was more of a habitual walk to neutral corner thing. Who knows tho.

[bingle]

Cung Le, to me, is essentially Cro-Cop at middle weight. He will continue to tear through lesser opponents until someone takes the fight to him or challenges him. That said, I think the UFC needs to take a good hard look at getting him in the org. Cung Le v. Franklin, or Cung Le v. Leben would both be excellent matches.

He'd never go to the UFC, nor does he have any reason to. He's making a fuckton of money doing what he's doing, and he's starting national exposure down the throat seeing how Strikeforce recently inked a deal with NBC.

A move to the UFC would do nothing for his career at this juncture.

[Somehow]

He'd never go to the UFC, nor does he have any reason to. He's making a fuckton of money doing what he's doing, and he's starting national exposure down the throat seeing how Strikeforce recently inked a deal with NBC.

A move to the UFC would do nothing for his career at this juncture.


1.) Strikeforce's NBC deal is junk
2.) UFC can offer him more money
3.) UFC can offer him more exposure.
4.) UFC can offer him the ability to compete against the world's best instead of the Shamrock family.

I'd say that's offering him something.

[bingle]

No, no, no. The UFC will not pay Cung Le 250k a fight, which is what he's making with Strikeforce (Frank makes about a million per fight. He made 1.5 million for the Baroni fight). That wouldn't make any sense for them, since he's basically a California phenomenon and isn't going to sell any seats in Montreal or Cleveland or wherever the fuck else.

It wouldn't make any business sense for the UFC to sign Cung Le and it doesn't make any business sense for Cung Le to want to fight in the UFC. They'd have to pay him too much money, an amount that doesn't correlate with his national popularity, which is minimal. They'd put him up against Leben, paying him three times as much as Leben makes. That doesn't make shit for sense.

As far as Strikeforce's TV deal is concerned, I don't know anything about it. But at least it's there. Its fighters will be on national television - I suppose that's what the goal was.

The UFC's tight pockets are starting to annoy some fighters. They lost Couture, and now it looks like they've lost Sylvia. Tito is gone after the Machida fight. There'd be a fuckin exodus if they paid Cung Le a quarter mill to beat fighters that have been with the organization for years making 50k a fight.

[Somehow]

No, no, no. The UFC will not pay Cung Le 250k a fight, which is what he's making with Strikeforce (Frank makes about a million per fight. He made 1.5 million for the Baroni fight). That wouldn't make any sense for them, since he's basically a California phenomenon and isn't going to sell any seats in Montreal or Cleveland or wherever the fuck else.

It wouldn't make any business sense for the UFC to sign Cung Le and it doesn't make any business sense for Cung Le to want to fight in the UFC. They'd have to pay him too much money, an amount that doesn't correlate with his national popularity, which is minimal. They'd put him up against Leben, paying him three times as much as Leben makes. That doesn't make shit for sense.

As far as Strikeforce's TV deal is concerned, I don't know anything about it. But at least it's there. Its fighters will be on national television - I suppose that's what the goal was.

The UFC's tight pockets are starting to annoy some fighters. They lost Couture, and now it looks like they've lost Sylvia. Tito is gone after the Machida fight. There'd be a fuckin exodus if they paid Cung Le a quarter mill to beat fighters that have been with the organization for years making 50k a fight.

Unfortunately you have no idea what you are talking about. The rumor that Frank was making over a million a fight has already been debunked. (http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=4224&zoneid=13), same goes for Cung Le.

Because of your inability to inform yourself to the facts surrounding an argument, I am terminating this discussion with you. Do some research, come back, make an informed opinion, and be prepared to back it up.

PS - NBC is going to air reruns of Strike Force fights at 2am+ on Sat nights. The deal is complete trash FYI.

[Mark.]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C_4IskYZurg

Fight science mma edition part 1, part 2 and 3 are there as well. Interesting video.

[Wally Cleaver]

Somehow, how would you rank the depth of the weight classes within the UFC? That is, from most talent to least.

[Somehow]

Somehow, how would you rank the depth of the weight classes within the UFC? That is, from most talent to least.

Probably like this

1.) Light Heavy
2.) Welter
3.) Light
4.) Middle
5.) Heavy

[tleetx2012]

What's everyone's Fight Night Live 13 picks?

My picks in red:

Kenny Florian vs. Joe Lauzon
Karo Parisyan vs. Thiago Alves
Matt Hamill vs. Tim Boetsch
Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin
Gray Maynard vs. Frank Edgar
Josh Neer vs. Din Thomas
Clay Guidda vs. Samy Shiavo
George Sotiropoulous vs. Roman Mitichyan
Anthony Johnson vs. Tommy Speer
Nate Diaz vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Jeff Cox vs. Manny Gamburyan
Marcus Aurelio vs. Ryan Roberts

[Somehow]

Kflo
Karo
Hamill
Houston

[PJP]

What's everyone's Fight Night Live 13 picks?

My picks in red:

Kenny Florian vs. Joe Lauzon
Karo Parisyan vs. Thiago Alves
Matt Hamill vs. Tim Boetsch
Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin
Gray Maynard vs. Frank Edgar
Josh Neer vs. Din Thomas
Clay Guidda vs. Samy Shiavo
George Sotiropoulous vs. Roman Mitichyan
Anthony Johnson vs. Tommy Speer
Nate Diaz vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Jeff Cox vs. Manny Gamburyan
Marcus Aurelio vs. Ryan Roberts

I only have 2 picks different.
Alves over Karo
Edgar over Maynard

[tleetx2012]

Alves over Karo

I can hear Dropping The Oppressor cringe already....he's a hugger of the Karo nuts! HaHa!

[Wally Cleaver]

I can hear Dropping The Oppressor cringe already....he's a hugger of the Karo nuts! HaHa!

Watch that fight go to decision... :rolleyes:

[Gabe]

Florian
Alves
Hamil
Alexander
Edgar
Thomas
Guida
George S.
Speer
Pelegrino
Gamburyan
Aurelio

cant wait.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

DON'T SLEEP ON KARO!




(yes it will likely end in a decision)

[Vega]

Fight Night Live 13 picks?

My picks in red:

Kenny Florian vs. Joe Lauzon
Karo Parisyan vs. Thiago Alves
Matt Hamill vs. Tim Boetsch
Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin
Gray Maynard vs. Frank Edgar
Josh Neer vs. Din Thomas
Clay Guidda vs. Samy Shiavo
George Sotiropoulous vs. Roman Mitichyan
Anthony Johnson vs. Tommy Speer
Nate Diaz vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Jeff Cox vs. Manny Gamburyan
Marcus Aurelio vs. Ryan Roberts


dont forget to get you picks in the PRP FANTASY MMA League
@ mmaplayground.com

post your username so i can add you to our camp

[tleetx2012]

Fight Night Live 13 picks?

My picks in red:

Kenny Florian vs. Joe Lauzon
Karo Parisyan vs. Thiago Alves
Matt Hamill vs. Tim Boetsch
Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin
Gray Maynard vs. Frank Edgar
Josh Neer vs. Din Thomas
Clay Guidda vs. Samy Shiavo
George Sotiropoulous vs. Roman Mitichyan
Anthony Johnson vs. Tommy Speer
Nate Diaz vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Jeff Cox vs. Manny Gamburyan
Marcus Aurelio vs. Ryan Roberts


dont forget to get you picks in the PRP FANTASY MMA League
@ mmaplayground.com

post your username so i can add you to our camp

I run a camp...but thanks for the invite.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

My picks in bold:

Kenny Florian vs. Joe Lauzon
Karo Parisyan vs. Thiago Alves
Matt Hamill vs. Tim Boetsch
Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin
Gray Maynard vs. Frank Edgar
Josh Neer vs. Din Thomas
Clay Guidda vs. Samy Shiavo
George Sotiropoulous vs. Roman Mitichyan
Anthony Johnson vs. Tommy Speer
Nate Diaz vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Jeff Cox vs. Manny Gamburyan
Marcus Aurelio vs. Ryan Roberts

[tleetx2012]

My picks in bold:

Kenny Florian vs. Joe Lauzon
Karo Parisyan vs. Thiago Alves
Matt Hamill vs. Tim Boetsch
Houston Alexander vs. James Irvin
Gray Maynard vs. Frank Edgar
Josh Neer vs. Din Thomas
Clay Guidda vs. Samy Shiavo
George Sotiropoulous vs. Roman Mitichyan
Anthony Johnson vs. Tommy Speer
Nate Diaz vs. Kurt Pellegrino
Jeff Cox vs. Manny Gamburyan
Marcus Aurelio vs. Ryan Roberts

Don't count Lauzon out...I think he has what it takes to take Kenny.

[Vega]

theres no question that lauzon has a great chance of winning but kenny made me tap so i gotta go with him

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Don't count Lauzon out...I think he has what it takes to take Kenny.
You want to put some real money on it?

[tleetx2012]

You want to put some real money on it?

I'll bring a fiver over.

Speaking of which...what time does it start?

[Dropping The Oppressor]

7pm good sir.

[tleetx2012]

7pm good sir.

Sweet...I'm off 5-ish...I'll find something to do to waste time til around then.

[Wally Cleaver]

Alexander/Irvin spoiler alert...














































Was Houston out or what? That was unsatisfying...

[Cardinal]

[spoiler]






he was out
both of his arms were rigid and at his sides instead of protecting himself
you cant just sit there to get wailed on if youre awake

[gtrplyr7]

Looks like Alexander is not the big shot everyone thought he was. He's been exposed on the ground and now standing.

[Wally Cleaver]

he was out
both of his arms were rigid and at his sides instead of protecting himself
you cant just sit there to get wailed on if youre awake

Yea you are right... it was still unsatisfying tho. :D

[Wally Cleaver]

they better air the damn guida fight!

[Vega]

SPOILER













jesus H.A. got laced
:(

Nate diaz is nice with it.

[Wally Cleaver]

Why would the ref even bother yelling "watch the back of the head!?!" to hammil?

[Vega]

Why would the ref even bother yelling "watch the back of the head!?!" to hammil?

lol @ that and rape choke.

[Vega]

AHHHH WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this has been an upsetting evening

[Wally Cleaver]

Wtf!

spoiler...




















And just like that, there's goes your title shot Karo.

[Wally Cleaver]

two odd thoughts....

First, when the fuck did Steve Mazagatti shave off the porn stache???

Second, since when do they use a fucking cowbell for the 10 second warning? Everytime it hits I think of Skid Row - Monkey Business.

[Cardinal]

the stoppage is a bit iffy to me, but karo was kinda just gonna get pounded on more, so i guess it's justified

[laqueefa]

I hope Karo shuts up now.

[Cardinal]

I hope Karo shuts up now.

as much as i like him, this is gonna make him probably more annoying now that he lost via stoppage. he'll complain about early stoppage for the next 5 years, no doubt

[Vega]

damn kid got his face fixed

[Cardinal]

it's nice to know if gray maynard is getting beat in the stand-up he has the ability to take someone down over and over and not do a fucking thing with it.
frustrating.

[Wally Cleaver]

As stacked as this card is, I haven't felt the wow factor as of yet. It's been... meh. At least there hasn't been a ton of decisions I suppose.

We'll see what Lauzon/kenflo brings.

[y0yoyo u fuckin ho]

anyone know if cox won?

[Cardinal]

Jeff Cox (Pictures) vs. Manvel Gamburyan (Pictures)
Round 1
Gamburyan was stuffed on an early takedown attempt, and saw himself pinned against the cage. With his back to the fencing, Gamburyan executed a beautiful judo throw and transitioned into a perfect guillotine. Cox tapped quickly at the 1:41 mark of the first round.

[garrettchristmas]

i thought the card was definitely entertaining, specifically nate diaz's triumphant triangle.


the ultimate fighter, eh not so much.

[tleetx2012]

I got owned by my picks this time. I got wrong the last 2 UFC PPVs...but fuck...went 6 - 6 tonight!

[laqueefa]

some gifs of the night

my fav
http://i32.tinypic.com/2cwki7n.gif

http://i25.tinypic.com/2hzsbop.gif

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h198/eric_huerta/Untitled-1.gif

[Vega]

nice one johnson mangled that kid

[tleetx2012]

nice one johnson mangled that kid

That shit was brutal! I was actually OK with getting that pick wrong. Don't like Speer...but figured he'd win.

[Somehow]

I cannot wait to see Florian v. Penn, every fight Kenny gets better. Very impressed. Also, even though he lost, Pelligrino has really been impressing me lately. That guy is a force, I'd like to see him and Guida fight.

[tleetx2012]

I cannot wait to see Florian v. Penn

Penn will own him...IMO

[Somehow]

Penn will own him...IMO

I think Penn will win, but it will be a great fight. Kenny's style is very similar to St. Pierre, and you saw what St. Pierre did to Penn when he gassed.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Decent event.
I did pretty bad on my MMAPlayground picks and still smoked everyone in the fight camp. You guys must have had it pretty bad.

The Houston Alexander stoppage was justified I thought. I'm having a rougher time with the Karo stoppage. Yes he's one of my favorite fighters.
Yes he got destroyed with that knee and it folded his ass, but I thought that he was defending himself on the ground well enough that the could have let it go on for a minute.
I'm not trying to say that he would have pulled off the win, or even gotten out of that bad position at all, only that I think the stoppage was a little bit too early.

[firmdragon]

Decent event.
I did pretty bad on my MMAPlayground picks and still smoked everyone in the fight camp. You guys must have had it pretty bad.

The Houston Alexander stoppage was justified I though, but I'm a rougher time with the Karo stoppage. Yes he's one of my favorite fighters.
Yes he got destroyed with that knee and it folded his ass, but I thought that he was defending himself on the ground well enough that the could have let it go on for a minute.
I'm not trying to say that he would have pulled off the win, or even gotten out of that bad position at all, only that I think the stoppage was a little bit to early.

i thought both stoppages were justified or at least borderline. with karo's he probably should've gotten a few more seconds, but i'm not sure if it would;ve changed the outcome

[tleetx2012]

I'm having a rougher time with the Karo stoppage. Yes he's one of my favorite fighters.
Yes he got destroyed with that knee and it folded his ass, but I thought that he was defending himself on the ground well enough that the could have let it go on for a minute.
I'm not trying to say that he would have pulled off the win, or even gotten out of that bad position at all, only that I think the stoppage was a little bit too early.

N-U-T-H-U-G-G-E-R

:D

[Dropping The Oppressor]

i thought both stoppages were justified or at least borderline. with karo's he probably should've gotten a few more seconds, but i'm not sure if it would;ve changed the outcome

I agree that it most likely wouldn't have changed the outcome.



:(

[Dropping The Oppressor]

N-U-T-H-U-G-G-E-R

:D

You owe me $5 motherfucker.

[tleetx2012]

You owe me $5 motherfucker.

HaHa...why yes, yes I do. I'll be bringing 500 pennies by wihin the next week.

[Voxxamp]

Probably like this

1.) Light Heavy
2.) Welter
3.) Light
4.) Middle
5.) Heavy

Going to have to respectfully disagree with this chief. The 155-pound division is stacked beyond belief right now. 155 is the deepest division. Penn, Sherk, Maximus, Stevenson, Guida, Florian, Lauzon, Huerta, Gray Maynard, Frankie Edgar, Tavares. Fuck to say nothing of all the other TUF fighters like Diaz, Manny, Wiman... I would fucking HATE to have to fight in that division right now. Such a deep, deep talent pool--you've got a long to climb to become a contender at that weight.

[Voxxamp]

Check out my podcast too. www.newenglandfights.com. Sign up.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

155 is definitely the best division.

[tleetx2012]

Faber / Pulver....discuss.

[bingle]

Pulver should be able to either sneak in a submission or pound him out if he can avoid getting put on his ass. If he ends up getting mauled against the cage, his strategy should involve scrambling to the feet and looking for a KO, since Faber's standup is pretty suspect.

The matchmaking here is really just phenomenal. I'd watch a PPV headlined by this fight.

[Vega]

Pulver>>>>> only cuz i like this dudes style

[Somehow]

155 is definitely the best division.

The reason I wouldn't rank the light weight division higher is that I don't feel that the world's best lightweights are in the UFC. Comparibly, the best light heavies and welterweights are in the UFC.

In the light heavyweight division, the UFC is maybe lacking Arona, and that's about it for top talent. At welterweight, maybe Sakurai.

But in the lightweights, there is JZ, Gomi, Aoki, Melendez, Ishida, Ribeiro, Kawajiri... a lot of the world's best at light weight. Now, I'm not saying the UFC's division is not stacked, clearly it is. It's just not exactly stacked with the elite of the elite fighters. Over time that may change, but at this point, I think you'd be hard pressed to say that the light weight division is deeper than the Welterweights and Light Heavyweights.

[Voxxamp]

Jens Pulver is one of my favorite figures in MMA. He was the first fighter I ever interviewed--way back just after he defeated Penn. I think he's a great athlete with a good heart and I love his story of resiliency. That being said, the smart money is on Faber in this fight. Urijiah earned his stripes in his last fight against Curran--I mean the dude taps a legit BJJ BB and exhibits excellent versatility on his way to doing it. Faber's composure and mental toughness has been tested and he's shown he's got the guts to hang. I think the dude is cocky because he has the world by the short hairs, but I'd probably be pretty big feeling too if I had a chin that could crack walnuts and the fighting skills to match it.

I'm tempted to fly to CA for this one because my boy, Mike Brown, is going against Curran on the same card.

Brown will give Faber a good run for his money when they fight, but without question the future 145-pound champ is a quiet 19-year old kid from MA named Josh Grispi. Remember this thread--you heard it here first.

[tleetx2012]

FUCK!!!!

I procrastinated on making my picks for the IFL tonight and now MMAP took it down.

Hate that!

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Yeah, they locked it in earlier.
I can't remember if I even got all my picks in?

[tleetx2012]

Yeah, they locked it in earlier.
I can't remember if I even got all my picks in?

Sucks. I meant to do it last night but got sidetracked. Gonna leave at 7 / 7:30 so I can make it home to stream that fucker.

[tleetx2012]

Anybody got any DVDs they wanna sell?

I can PM what I need.

Looking to complete the Pride and UFC collections first.

LMK

[PJP]

Faber / Pulver....discuss.

Pulver is my boy, coolest guy to hang with. He is also a hardcore WoW player, go figure. Pulver wins by left high kick

[gtrplyr7]

Fedor Emelianenko Vs. Tim Sylvia Being Discussed For June
By Jason Perkins | April 07, 2008

A proposed contest between Fedor Emelianenko and Tim Sylvia is currently in discussions according to a source close to the negotiations. Though our source informed us that this fight is a "solid possibility" it should be noted that it is far from a done deal and would require further negotiations if a basic agreement is reached. There are also other names in the works for both fighters should this fight fail to materialize.
The fight, however, if officially agreed to, will be held in Chicago this June under the newly formed Adrenaline MMA banner. The card is also set to feature Jeff Monson taking on Mike Russow in a heavyweight showdown.

Former UFC champion Tim Sylvia was recently released from his UFC contract and has since signed with Adrenaline MMA; which coincidently employs his agent, Monte Cox as CEO of the company. The promotion has also signed Ben Rothwell and Eddie Alverez as the company looks to begin stockpiling talent as they move towards their inaugural event to be held on June 14th.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Sherdog Radio had the scoop on this last week.

How funny will it be if Big Tim fights Fedor before Randy does?

[Vega]

I hope Fedor literally kills Tim if they give that buma chance to stand in the ring with god

[bingle]

Fedor needs to fight someone with four functioning appendages, pronto.

[Vega]

fedor needs to actually fight someone who isnt abum

[gtrplyr7]

I would love to see Timmeh fight Fedor. It would be complete destruction. Tim HAS to know this.

[Cardinal]

I would love to see Timmeh fight Fedor. It would be complete destruction. Tim HAS to know this.

you never know
if timmy can land the right punch, it could be over
sucks, but truth
fedor will probably just take him down and armbar him though

[Vega]

Fedor is immune to punches

[bingle]

It'd be worth watching, which is what we should be aiming for here

[gtrplyr7]

Breaking News: Fedor Confirms Sylvia Fight
http://www.sherdog.com
Tuesday, April 08, 2008
by Evgeni Kogan and Greg Savage

Top ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) will fight Tim Sylvia (Pictures) on July 19. The Russian mixed martial arts champion confirmed the bout to Sherdog.com on Tuesday.

"[Sylvia] is a good fighter, a strong fighter, the former UFC heavyweight champion, which is important," Emelianenko said via telephone from Stary Oskol, Russia. "I am looking forward to fighting him and training hard for this fight."

While Emelianenko was short on details, Sherdog.com has learned through sources close to the negotiations that Fedor-Sylvia would headline a card tentatively scheduled for the American Airlines Arena in Dallas, the home base of HDNet Fights.

HDNet Fights CEO Andrew Simon declined to comment on the report, however sources indicate the bout will air on the Mark Cuban-owned network and is rumored to be promoted by Affliction, a clothing brand closely tied to MMA.

Affliction had been connected with Oscar De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions, however a June 28 Las Vegas date has since been discarded.

Emelianenko, a 31-year-old sambo practitioner, has faced criticism from media and fans alike after a string of fights against less than stellar competition. Sylvia would represent the Russian's first ranked opponent since his unanimous decision over Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic nearly three years ago.

Widely regarded as the top heavyweight fighter in the world, Emelianenko (27-1-0, 1 NC) was recently freed from a letter of intent binding him to the now-defunct M-1 Global promotion.

Sylvia, 32, is coming off a submission loss to Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Pictures) in February at UFC 81. After a spirited performance that saw him batter his foe at will with strikes, Sylvia (24-4-0) eventually fell victim to a classic Nogueira come-from-behind performance and succumbed to a guillotine choke early in the third round.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

I'm a bit of an Emelianenko brothers nuthugger, but I think Tim gives Fedor a decently tough fight.
Tim will ultimately lose by getting taken down and submitted IMO.

[gtrplyr7]

I hope Fedor breaks Tim's other arm.

[Vega]

I hope Fedor breaks Tim's other arm.
this would be good
i say first round fedor by armbar

[Dropping The Oppressor]

....

[Dropping The Oppressor]

I just bought myself a Team Tanner shirt.
I really like his Team Tanner approach to his sponsorship and I wanted to show him some support.

http://www.evantanner.net/teamtanner

Also, he just signed to fight Kendal Grove sometime this summer.

[Vega]

lol im still laughing at how my trainer served grove

[Dropping The Oppressor]

lol im still laughing at how my trainer served grove

How often do you actually get to train with Jorge Rivera?
Is it his gym or does he just train there?

[Vega]

hes an instructor we have 2 main instructors Jorge and Tom Hafers and they are there everyday
so essentially i train with him every day that i go

[Vega]

oh also something funny jorge thinks my name is Mike ive never corrected him on it

[Dropping The Oppressor]

What the fuck is your real name anyway?

[Vega]

Vega

[Vega]

http://files.myopera.com/VegaTheTerrible/albums/52707/0_IMAGE_207.jpg

[Dropping The Oppressor]

My bad. Thought it was just an internet thang.

[PJP]

$35 for a fucking T-shirt? I mean I'll support, but not for that much.

[Ampathy]

Did anyone get a link for the dark matches from the last Ultimate Fight Night?

[PJP]

they are in the video vault in www.mma-tv.net sign up and they post all mma fights on there for all leagues.

[gtrplyr7]

Did anyone get a link for the dark matches from the last Ultimate Fight Night?

like Manny's total cheap shot?

http://fileserver6.jpghosting.com/images/mannycheap_dcd6c28de2d93dce92cc08d4fca3c691.gif

[Ampathy]

they are in the video vault in www.mma-tv.net sign up and they post all mma fights on there for all leagues.
That site is fucking impossible to register to. FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE.

[Vega]

im on the site

HOLY FUCK! WHO JUST SEEN THAT KNOCKOUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAMNNNNNNI FELT SO BAD FOR THE KID

[Vega]

Wooooooooooo that blackbelt was fuckin nasty jesus christ he gave that kid a lesson

[Wally Cleaver]

I'm curious your thoughts... Yamma Pit Fighting.

I don't think too much of the organization itself. They don't have any fighters really beyond Ricco, Butterbean and Oleg.

But I'm curious to see how their new cage design (created by UFC founder Bob Meyrowitz) changes the flow of fights.

It seems it would indeed eliminate the use of the fence itself as a strategy in a fight and might make fights more action packed.

Dunno, I think that cage design is pretty sick. Check it out:

http://www.cagetoday.com/ufc-founder-bob-meyrowitz-explains-the-yamma-pit/

[Vega]

http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/images/movie/large/Bloodsport-JCVD_BoloYeung3_725c609854f97381b0b026a858053a36.j pg

that shits the hotness
you could give someone a killer hiptoss off that or evena killer knee
i have high hopes

[Wally Cleaver]

that shits the hotness
you could give someone a killer hiptoss off that or evena killer knee
i have high hopes

Yeah, it could be cool. I imagine fighters like Couture would have some trouble as their main tools are fence tactics like greco shit and dirty boxing.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

The Yamma Pit isn't a bad design overall.
The promotion on the other hand is going to have a really tough time getting going though.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Wooooooooooo that blackbelt was fuckin nasty jesus christ he gave that kid a lesson

Are you talking about Marcus Aurelio from the UFN13 undercard?
If so, then yeah he's a bad ass. Been a fan since his Pride days.

[bingle]

Are you talking about Marcus Aurelio from the UFN13 undercard?
If so, then yeah he's a bad ass. Been a fan since his Pride days.

Loved seein him choke out Gomi, although the rematch was shit

[firmdragon]

Are you talking about Marcus Aurelio from the UFN13 undercard?
If so, then yeah he's a bad ass. Been a fan since his Pride days.

probably talking about tim creduer on TUF. although aurelio's sub was pretty slick too.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

probably talking about tim creduer on TUF. although aurelio's sub was pretty slick too.

Yeah, that's probably the one that he was talking about.

[firmdragon]

The Yamma Pit isn't a bad design overall.
The promotion on the other hand is going to have a really tough time getting going though.

The design looks pretty decent. I hope their tournament doesn't end up being a gong show with injuries and replacements like the early ufcs.

[Vega]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-05KeXa_cI8&e

this was pretty brutal felt real bad for the kid

[Voxxamp]

My brother grappled Simmler a year ago at a tournament. Dan is a sick, sick ground guy. I still can't believe that KO. Broken jaw. Brutal!

[Ampathy]

Yamma tonight. Watching it?

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Yamma tonight. Watching it?

Streaming it now.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

The ring announcer, although unintentionally hilarious, made parts of this almost unwatchable for me. I actually abandoned ship mid-event. It wasn't keeping my attention well enough. Had to read the results this morning. Glad I didn't pay for that.

[Wally Cleaver]

I actually abandoned ship mid-event. It wasn't keeping my attention well enough. Had to read the results this morning. Glad I didn't pay for that.

Same here... I couldn't take anymore and had to kill the stream. There were some seriously low production values happening there. And the fights were meh.

[Cardinal]

i didnt start watching until wiuff's first fight, so watching to the end wasnt too hard.
it was nice to see butterbean get walloped
but the one round fights were just wack
it's hard to tell if the new cage really makes a difference, though it definitely makes takedowns way easier and puts people's legs in danger (a few times legs got folder underneath the body)
the event in general was pretty boring though
that announcer is the worst idea anybody couldve had about anything ever

[PJP]

7 decisions out of 11 fights = boring

also what ever happened to Mark Kerr's body, he used to look like a beast, now he looks like fatty McGee

[Vega]

UFC 83 - Serra vs. St. Pierre 2

Champ Matt Serra vs. Georges St. Pierre (title-unification bout)
Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter
Michael Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy
Alan Belcher vs. Jason Day
Marc Bocek vs. Mac Danzig
Joe Doerksen vs. Jason MacDonald
Ed Herman vs. Demian Maia
Rich Clementi vs. Sam Stout
Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes
Jonathan Goulet vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka


ANY ONE GOT THE SITE THAT HAS THE BARS PLAYING UFC?

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Thanks Vega, I was going to bump this this morning.
You can see what bars the event is being shown at at UFC.com. Under the event details there is a Sports Bars (http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=EventDetail.SportsBars&eid=1082) link with the info. Word.

My picks in bold:
Matt Serra vs. Georges St. Pierre
I wouldn't be surprised if Serra gets him again however.

Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter
Michael Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy
Alan Belcher vs. Jason Day
Marc Bocek vs. Mac Danzig
Joe Doerksen vs. Jason MacDonald
Ed Herman vs. Demian Maia
Rich Clementi vs. Sam Stout
Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes
Jonathan Goulet vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Brad Morris vs. Cain Velasquez

Man, a few of these are really tough to pick. There are some real toss ups here. Very competitive card from top to bottom.

[gtrplyr7]

My picks in bold:
Matt Serra vs. Georges St. Pierre
I wouldn't be surprised if Serra gets him again however.

Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter
Michael Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy
Alan Belcher vs. Jason Day
Marc Bocek vs. Mac Danzig
Joe Doerksen vs. Jason MacDonald
Ed Herman vs. Demian Maia
Rich Clementi vs. Sam Stout
Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes
Jonathan Goulet vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Brad Morris vs. Cain Velasquez

[Cardinal]

Matt Serra vs. Georges St. PierreA
i cant fucking stand matt serra. ill be pretty pissed if he wins again

Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter
Michael Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy
Alan Belcher vs. Jason Day
Marc Bocek vs. Mac Danzig
Joe Doerksen vs. Jason MacDonald
Ed Herman vs. Demian Maia
Rich Clementi vs. Sam Stout
Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes
Jonathan Goulet vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Brad Morris vs. Cain Velasquez

[Dropping The Oppressor]

I've got Bisping to win, but I hope Captain Miserable taps his ass out.

[habitat5life]

Matt Serra vs. Georges St. Pierre -- I know it's not likely to happen, but i'd really like to see serra take this one.

Rich Franklin vs. Travis Lutter
Michael Bisping vs. Charles McCarthy
Alan Belcher vs. Jason Day
Marc Bocek vs. Mac Danzig
Joe Doerksen vs. Jason MacDonald
Ed Herman vs. Demian Maia
Rich Clementivs. Sam Stout
Nate Quarry vs. Kalib Starnes
Jonathan Goulet vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
Brad Morris vs. Cain Velasquez

[Somehow]

Ed Herman by G'n'P

[PJP]

Kalib Vs. Nate is the fight of the night

[Vega]

lol @ the ultimate fighter
herpes vs fighter

herpes by choke in the first round

[Ampathy]

Lutter will win, as will GSP and Bisping.

[Wally Cleaver]

Christ I hate Lutter

[laqueefa]

SPOILER




































































































That fight was all George

[Wally Cleaver]

I have to say... I didn't mind Kenflo's job commentating.

[Vega]

I THINK THEY STOPPED THE GSP FIGHT A LITTLE EARLY IT PISSED ME OFF
KEN FLO IS NICE
BUT IM USED TO JOE
I WAS SAD

[PJP]

Serra looked up to the ref when he was clearly not dodging those knees.

I'm dissapointed in the night.

I bet $50 to win $117 on Starnes and he pussied out the whole fight, I'm emberrased for him.
I bet $50 to win $185 on Serra and he choked.

Before the Bisping fight I was rooting for McCarthy, untill I saw what a bitch McCarthy was, doing nothing but covering up, so I started rooting for Bisping he tore his ass apart.

Danzig fight was great and the Goulet fight was good.

I'd like to see the other undercards soon.

[tleetx2012]

http://i27.tinypic.com/ricieg.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/sxjfc1.gif

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Quarry made the biggest chump out of Kalib Starns in the history of the sport (or right up there at least).
Kalib should be embarrassed to ever step foot in the cage again.

I was laughing my ass off during the last part of the 3rd round. Quarry owned his ass hard.

[Somehow]

Best MMA pic in history:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/834/kalibstarnesaf4.jpg

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Best MMA pic in history:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/834/kalibstarnesaf4.jpg

HOLY SHIT.


That brought the serious LOL's

[PJP]

I wonder if he is even going to get paid at all. Dana is most likely going to fire him without a doubt.

[tleetx2012]

http://i28.tinypic.com/xd57uq.jpg

[mwarkentin]

Domination.

[PJP]

anyone find video's of the undercard fights?

[Gabe]

maybe on here, i haven't checked though.

http://mmalinker.com/

[laqueefa]

anyone find video's of the undercard fights?

so far two are available http://tracker.fullcontactzone.com/details.php?id=9977

[Dropping The Oppressor]

UFC cut Starnes after that disgraceful performance.
Source (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/blog/mma_experts/post/UFC-cuts-Starnes-after-disgraceful-performance;_ylt=AugIwRkpLRO9sUio.Yq2c4Q9Eo14?urn= mma,78124).

[PJP]

I think he cut himself, the UFC part was a no brainer. If he even tried to fight he could of possibly earned 75k for a fight of the night / knockout / submission bonus. I'd like to punch him right now for making me lose $50, he should of not even showed up at the fight as a protest.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

I think he cut himself, the UFC part was a no brainer. If he even tried to fight he could of possibly earned 75k for a fight of the night / knockout / submission bonus. I'd like to punch him right now for making me lose $50, he should of not even showed up at the fight as a protest.

That "Kalib Starnes on some Canadian radio show talking about it being a protest to the UFC" thing is not true. It did not happen according to Kalib Starnes himself. Sherdog radio reported this earlier.
According to Sherdog radio (Andy Coterrel (sp?) through Josh Gross during Beatdown),
Kalib is supposed to release a statement soon, but has to have it cleared by the UFC first.
We'll see I guess.

Edit:
If you were listening to the Savage Dog Show earlier today, they were actually talking like that radio interview had really happened, but it turns out that they just got that info off of the forums too. Some troll is smiling ear to ear right now. I've seen that story reposted a few different places today.

[PJP]

Yep, I've been reading sherdog forums about it, maybe 1/100 people are on Kalib's side, which is a first in sherdog forum history. He is supposed to have a press conference wed about it, but maybe that's a troll thing also.

[Voxxamp]

Chuck Injured, main event for 85 cancelled

[tleetx2012]

Chuck Injured, main event for 85 cancelled

His bitchass just doesn't wanna fight in England.

[laqueefa]

Chuck Injured, main event for 85 cancelled


source?

[PJP]

http://mmamania.com/2008/04/21/report-chuck-liddell-vs-rashad-evans-ufc-85-fight-scrapped/

[laqueefa]

http://mmamania.com/2008/04/21/report-chuck-liddell-vs-rashad-evans-ufc-85-fight-scrapped/

good. maybe after he rehabs something will happen to evans and we will see chuck v. rua

[Voxxamp]

If you want the inside scoop on a guy that's going to be signing with the WEC or UFC soon, you should check out www.newenglandfights.com. Subscribe to the podcast. Later this week a new ep is going up that features an interview with Mike Campbell. Campbell is going to be taped for an upcoming episode of Tapout. He fights at 170. He benches over 400 pounds, but he's not bulky and a strict gnp guy--he's much more dynamic, like a GSP.

Here is a link to a four second KO he had:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2347722063857577194&q=mike+campbell+naga&total=1&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[PJP]

what a jackass, he kept pounding that guy when the ref was taking him off. He might be good but no sportsmanship.

[Vega]

what a jackass, he kept pounding that guy when the ref was taking him off. He might be good but no sportsmanship.
.

[gtrplyr7]

Chuck's torn hamstring:
http://media.ufc.tv/i.cfc?method=get&s=74026625-1422-0E8C-9A858D0261A662B8.jpg

[Voxxamp]

what a jackass, he kept pounding that guy when the ref was taking him off. He might be good but no sportsmanship.

Funny you mention that. He was actually suspended for a YEAR as a result of that. Barred from competing in New England. He addresses it in the interview.

[Vega]

UFC 85 As it stands:

James Irvin vs. Rashad Evans
Chris Leben vs. Michael Bisping
Febricio Verdum vs. Brandon Vera
Jorge Rivera vs. Marvin Kampmann
Marcus Davis vs. Mike Swick
Nate Marquardt vs Thales Lietes

Possible Additions:

Tyson Griffin vs. Gray Maynard
Nate Quarry vs. Patrick Cote
Patrick Cote vs. Demian Maia
Shogun vs. Bonnar

[dmf sauce]

how is shogun vs. bonnar a possible addition when shogun was removed from this card due to injury?

[gtrplyr7]

how is shogun vs. bonnar a possible addition when shogun was removed from this card due to injury?

and why would he fight Bonnar>?

[Vega]

how is shogun vs. bonnar a possible addition when shogun was removed from this card due to injury?
cuz anythings possible?
also notice how the rest have full names but that one doesnt.

[Cardinal]

not to mention tyson griffin and gray maynard train together...im pretty sure there's no way theyd fight each other

[Vega]

they also added bisping and leben to the card as well cuz they dont have that on the original line up

[PJP]

Leben Vs. Bisping might be the main event for that one

I like this fight, we actually get to see Bisping tested.

I'm also really looking forward to this next UFC...

Main card (televised):
UFC Lightweight Champion B.J. Penn (12-4-1) vs. Sean Sherk (32-2-1)
205 lbs.: Wanderlei Silva (31-8-1) vs. Keith Jardine (13-3-1)
205 lbs.: Goran Reljic (7-0) vs. Wilson Gouveia (10-4)
205 lbs.: Tito Ortiz (15-5-1) vs. Lyoto Machida (12-0)
205 lbs.: Thiago Silva (12-0) vs. Antonio Mendes (14-2)

Under card (may not be broadcast):

185 lbs.: Rousimar Palhares (7-1) vs. Ivan Salaverry (12-5) idk these guys
205 lbs.: Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (4-2) vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura (11-7) (why is this an undercard?)
155 lbs.: Terry Etim (10-1) vs. Rich Clementi (31-12-1) (Clementi just fought in UFC 83)
170 lbs.: Jon Koppenhaver (5-1) vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (9-2)
170 lbs.: Dong Hyun Kim (9-1-1) vs. Jason Tan (5-2) idk
265 lbs.: Shane Carwin (8-0) vs. Christian Wellisch (8-3) idk

[Vega]

kimbo address's chuck liddells comments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE5LvLKwbHM

[Vega]

Fedor Emelianenko confirmed to Sherdog.com today a 7/19 fight with Tim Sylvia in Dallas promoted by Affliction.

[dmf sauce]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ9POUX88Mw

haha WOW

[Vega]

RESULTS DREAM 2
Dream 2, Saitama, Japan:
Shinya Aoki def. Gesias Calvancante, unanimous decision;
Taiei Kin def. Ikuhisa Minowa, unanimous decision;
Dong Sik Yoon def. Shungo Oyama, unanimous decision;
Zelg Galesic def. Magomed Sultanakhmedovd, submission (armbar), 1:40 R1;
Ronalda "Jacare" Souza def. Ian Murphy, submission (rear naked choke), 3:38 R1;
Kiyoshi Tamura def. Masakatsu Funaki, TKO, 0:57 R1;
Gerard Mousasi def. Denis Kang, submission (triangle choke), 3:10 R1;
Kazushi Sakuraba def. Andrews Nakahara, submission (neck crank), 8:20 R1








Travis Lutter cut from the UFC
MMAjunkie.com Staff, MMAjunkie.com Apr 28, 11:39 am EDT

UFC middleweight and “The Ultimate Fighter 4” winner Travis Lutter, who most recently suffered a second-round TKO to Rich Franklin at UFC 83, has been released from the UFC.

Lutter confirmed the news with a recent blog post.

The cut is the latest from the UFC, which has been trimming its roster of fighters in recent months. As MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) previously reported, one of the highest-profile cases included Jake O’Brien earlier this month.

Lutter, who nearly submitted Franklin with a first-round armbar at the April 19 event, has been dropped from the UFC after facing arguably the division’s top two fighters: Franklin and UFC middleweight title-holder Anderson Silva.

“Friday [afternoon] I was told by my manager that UFC matchmaker Joe [Silva] had left my him a message on his phone that I had been released from my UFC contract because of my two losses in a row,” Lutter wrote.

After defeating Patrick Cote to win “TUF 4,” Lutter earned his guaranteed title shot with Silva. However, he failed to make weight for the event—earning the wrath of MMA fans and even UFC president Dana White—and despite a solid first round, he ultimately suffered a second-round submission loss via strikes.

Lutter (9-5 MMA, 2-5 UFC) made his octagon debut at UFC 50 and earned a second-round knockout victory over Marvin Eastman.


I never really like this guy anyways











“Cro Cop” vs. LeBanner at DREAM 4
Dann Stupp, MMAjunkie.com Apr 28, 11:33 am EDT

Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic (23-6-2), a former PRIDE stand-out currently on what he calls a temporarily leave of absence from the UFC, will next fight Jerome LeBanner (3-1-1) at DREAM 4.

Filipovic recently announced the bout on his official blog.

The DREAM organization replaced K-1 HERO’S after former PRIDE Fighting Championships staffers helped restructure the fight promotion. DREAM 4, the organization’s fourth show, takes place June 16 at the Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan.

Filipovic and LeBanner met once before—during a kickboxing event. Although he boasts little in the way of MMA experience, LeBanner is an accomplished kickboxer, owning a 73-14 record and two K-1 World Grand Prix titles. However, the Frenchman suffered a decision loss to Filipovic back in 1996 in what was just his seventh professional bout—and Filipovic’s first.

As for MMA, LeBanner will compete for the first time in more than two years. He last fought at a March 2006 K-1 HERO’S event and defeated Jimmy Ambriz with a first-round knockout. He also owns victories over Alan Karaev and Yoshihiro Akiyama, and he fought Bob Sapp to a draw in December 2004.

Filipovic, meanwhile, will look to build on his first-round TKO of Tatsuya Mizuno at DREAM’s inaugural show in March. The victory came after back-to-back losses in the UFC to Gabriel Gonzaga and Cheick Kongo, which prompted an eventual split from the organization. Filipovic has vowed to return to the UFC once he fights three times in Japan.

[Bartatua]

Here's video of Penn training for Sherk during his "active rest", meaning what he does in between training sessions during the day, or on his off day from training. An uphill, distance run at 8k feet elevation. The old BJ Penn sat at home and did nothing during days off, and hardly trained when he was "training". I'm not so sure that BJ is gonna gas as easily as Sherk may be hoping for. It sure doesn't seem like he's ignoring his cardio. Between the video below, the live in nutritionist, strength/conditioning routine, and sleeping in that high altitude tent, it looks like BJ might be in better fight shape than many of us are suspecting. Here's the vid.


Find more videos like this on BJPENN.COM


Here's the link in case it doesn't work either...
Mauna Kea Run with BJ Penn & Da Boyz - BJPENN.COM (http://www.bjpenn.com/video/video/show?id=2022293%3AVideo%3A94027)

[garrettchristmas]

man, kang got schooled. i've always said dude was overrated.


and the aoki/jz match was awesome.

[Vega]

why didnt you put this in the MMA thread?

and BJ is the man i hope he kills sherk literally
they keep playing clips of Sherk saying "i dont respect BJ"
id love to slap that guy

[Bartatua]

I don't buy into these fuckin conglomerate threads

I'm probably getting a promote on Saturday maybe at a seminar, by promote I mean stripes because that's all I can expect for a while

[Dropping The Oppressor]

BJ is definitely going to come out ready and fight hard for the first 3 rounds at least.

[Vega]

this is a great pic
http://i29.tinypic.com/2lidljk.jpg

[PJP]

Nick Diaz on Dream 3 card
http://mmamania.com/2008/05/02/nick-diaz-vs-inoue-katsuya-dream-3-fight-booked/

[Gabe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ9POUX88Mw

haha WOW

awesome techno viking

[firmdragon]

man, kang got schooled. i've always said dude was overrated.


and the aoki/jz match was awesome.

that omoplata to armbar transition was pretty slick. kinda sucks neither of them are advancing.

[Gabe]

that omoplata to armbar transition was pretty slick. kinda sucks neither of them are advancing.

i watched the first Aoki JZ fight last night, shouldnt have been a no-contest, hit landed in the shoulder first, JZ should have advanced (prolly would have won the whole thing too).

[Voxxamp]

My fav new local fighter here in New England. He made his debut back in the fall. He's 4-0 so far. 145 pounds. Ken Stone. Here is a video of him "tricking":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgMpJrjh1Ig

Here is the end of a fight he had a few weeks ago. He's fighting a D1 wrestler here. Crank the volume and listen to that kick land--it sounds like a gunshot going off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtKSmHlzUf0

You'll see him in the WEC within a year or so.

[Voxxamp]

Oh yeah, he broke two of the dudes ribs with that kick too.

[PJP]

This is a funny video of Bas Rutten Vs. Frank shamrock in Pancraese, Bas is Commentating on his own fight, it's hilarious.
http://www.mmascraps.com/2007/07/bas-rutten-vs-frank-shamrock.html

[Gabe]

Oh yeah, he broke two of the dudes ribs with that kick too.

holy fuck, what a kick

[garrettchristmas]

yeah, that kicked bummed me out.

[Gabe]

http://mmamania.com/2008/05/05/anderson-silva-big-nog/

awesome

[Dropping The Oppressor]

http://mmamania.com/2008/05/05/anderson-silva-big-nog/

awesome
I'm assuming that you're in the area?
If so, you're a lucky asshole.

[Gabe]

I'm assuming that you're in the area?
If so, you're a lucky asshole.

yea, its prolly like a 20-25 min drive for me, pretty much the same as to where i drive to train now. Annnd thats the same area id like to move to in a year or so.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Dickhead.

[Vega]

Dickhead.
Nogueira is one of the few guys that actually scares me

[garrettchristmas]

i wonder what the cost would be to train there...

[Vega]

i wonder what the cost would be to train there...

250 a month tops?
im just guessing cuz i pay 150

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Dream 3 was a pretty decent card! Anyone else catch it this weekend?

[Wally Cleaver]

Yes the past 3 dream events have been amazing! It looks as if they'll have a bright future... hopefully lots of co-productions to come. The coming Affliction card looks absolutely nuts too! Better step up your game UFC.

[tleetx2012]

Dream 3 was a pretty decent card! Anyone else catch it this weekend?

I'm gonna try and find a DL of it today.

[garrettchristmas]

alvarez vs. hansen was nuts.


diaz looked pretty good. mayhem is always entertaining.

[Vega]

results?

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Yes, Dream 1-3 so far have been pretty awesome.
I mean, it's Pride re-branded for the most part. Who can't get behind that?
Thank you HDNET for making this available!!

The Affliction card is going to be good. Most devoted MMA fans will watch it one way or another. I'm a huge fan, but I doubt that I'll even buy it. Not when I can stream it live then download a high-quality torrent the next day. Granted, a lot of people aren't hip to that whole thing, but are plenty who are. Is it enough to put a dent in the potential PPV buys? Probably not.
The Affliction purse payout is HUGE for this card. Hopefully they don't go broke with this single effort and are able to line up some decent cards in the future as well.

alvarez vs. hansen was nuts.


diaz looked pretty good. mayhem is always entertaining.
Alvarez vs. Hansen was an awesome fight for sure!

I love Nick Diaz, but he has to work his defense more. He doesn't respect his opponents power and leaves his head out there for almost everyone he fights. Even Bas was commenting on it. He's going to get KJ'ed again if he's not careful.

Melvin Manhoef looked like he underestimated his opponent. So did Miller at first too. They both got their shit together thankfully.


results?
Here's the Sherdog Play by Play:
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=12684

[Cardinal]

well
manhoef was coming off a knockout two weeks ago as well as a pretty hefty surgery, so he shouldnt even have been fighting.

miller looked fine...he was just being mayhem and eventually just decided to get serious. that fight was surprisingly brutal

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Yeah, I love the knees to the head on the ground. Mayhem completely wrecked the guy when he decided to get serious.

[tleetx2012]

Yeah, I love the knees to the head on the ground. Mayhem completely wrecked the guy when he decided to get serious.

Mayhem owns you all!

[Vega]

ufc 85 As it stands as of 5-8-08:

Matt Hughes vs. Thiago Alves
James Irvin vs. Rashad Evans
Febricio Verdum vs. Brandon Vera
Jorge Rivera vs. Marvin Kampmann
Marcus Davis vs. Mike Swick

Nate Marquardt vs Thales Lietes (now a undercard fight thumbsdown_anim)

Possible Additions:

Tyson Griffin vs. Gray Maynard
Nate Quarry vs. Patrick Cote
Patrick Cote vs. Demian Maia
Shogun vs. Bonnar

[Cardinal]

i dont know where you keep getting this info, but ufc.com has had the full card up for at least a week or two now...

main card is as you posted, and this is the undercard

Nate Marquardt (#5 Middleweight in the World)* vs. Thales Leites
-Martin Kampmann vs. Jorge Rivera
-Ryo Chonan vs. Roan Carneiro
-Thiago Tavares vs. Matt Wiman
-Luis Arthur Cane vs. Jason Lambert
-Jess Liaudin vs. Paul Taylor
-Neil Wain vs. Antoni Hardonk

cote is fighting almeida at 86, and shogun probably wont be back until the fall.

[Vega]

DAMN JORGE IS ON THE UNDERCARD NOW?
WTF

[Cardinal]

shit i didnt notice that bisping and jason day are on the main card for that too.

[Vega]

shit i didnt notice that bisping and jason day are on the main card for that too.

YEA LEBEN IS IN JAIL FOR 35 DAYS SO DAY GOT THE GO AHEAD

[Gabe]

Dream 3 was a pretty decent card! Anyone else catch it this weekend?

watched it last night, had some pretty good fights, i love watching mayhem fight.

[Gabe]

250 a month tops?
im just guessing cuz i pay 150

i can imagine it being a little bit more, i know that Marcelo Garcias place is around the high 200 low 300...so im sure this place could be over 300 a month....2 UFC champs? (and the p4p best fighter right now?)

[Vega]

i can imagine it being a little bit more, i know that Marcelo Garcias place is around the high 200 low 300...so im sure this place could be over 300 a month....2 UFC champs? (and the p4p best fighter right now?)

TRUE THAT

[PJP]

Nick diaz is my favorite fighter to watch, the guy can box with the best and BJJ submit anyone. He has a chin, except for the fact that he cuts easy, as we saw against KJ noons. He should be able to take that tournament down, and Eddie alverez take the other one.

[Imprint]

UFC needs to cut back on the amount of dudes called Thiago.
its getting annoying

[Dropping The Oppressor]

1) IFL is a sinking ship. That event on Friday was pretty ugh. Granted, they have some really talented fighters under their banner with a lot of potential, but I don't see the IFL rebounding. A new ring design isn't going to save them. When compared to the other promotions out there, the IFL just doesn't have it.

2) UFC 84 coming up this Saturday. Should be a great card. Post your picks. For the few of you that use MMAPlayground.com, be sure to lock your shit in there.


Sean Sherk vs. BJ Penn
Lyoto Machida vs. Tito Ortiz
Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva
Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia
Rameau Sokoudjou vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
Christian Wellisch vs. Shane Carwin
Antonio Mendes vs. Thiago Silva
John Koppenhaver vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Terry Etim vs. Rich Clementi
Ivan Salaverry vs. Rousimar Palhares
Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan

I hope BJ wins, but I think Sherk is going to be too strong for him and wear him down in the late rounds. I'm definitely pulling for Penn to win, but I'm not sure if his conditioning will allow it.

[Vega]

Sean Sherkvs. BJ Penn
Lyoto Machida vs. Tito Ortiz
Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva
Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia
Rameau Sokoudjou vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
Christian Wellisch vs. Shane Carwin
Antonio Mendes vs. Thiago Silva
John Koppenhaver vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Terry Etim vs. Rich Clementi
Ivan Salaverry vs. Rousimar Palhares
Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan

i hope BJ breaks sherks arm '
cant believe you picked roids over skills....

[gtrplyr7]

Sean Sherkvs. BJ Penn
Lyoto Machida vs. Tito Ortiz
Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva
Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia
Rameau Sokoudjou vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
Christian Wellisch vs. Shane Carwin
Antonio Mendes vs. Thiago Silva
John Koppenhaver vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Terry Etim vs. Rich Clementi
Ivan Salaverry vs. Rousimar Palhares
Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan



Also, Elite XC's "Primetime" event is on 5/21 on CBS...

Televised Bouts
Kimbo Slice vs. James Thompson
Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith
Phil Baroni vs. Joey Villasenor
Gina Carano vs. Kaitlin Young
Brett Rogers vs. Jon Murphy

Preliminary Bouts
Nick Serra vs. Matt Makowski
Zach Makovsky vs. Andre Soares
Wilson Reis vs. Justin Robbins
Mike Groves vs. Joe Sampieri
Carlton Haselrig vs. Joe McCall
Jim Bova vs. Chris Liguori

[Vega]

Also, Elite XC's "Primetime" event is on 5/21 on CBS...

Televised Bouts
Kimbo Slice vs. James Thompson
Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith
Phil Baroni vs. Joey Villasenor
Gina Carano vs. Kaitlin Young
Brett Rogers vs. Jon Murphy

Preliminary Bouts
Nick Serra vs. Matt Makowski
Zach Makovsky vs. Andre Soares
Wilson Reis vs. Justin Robbins
Mike Groves vs. Joe Sampieri
Carlton Haselrig vs. Joe McCall
Jim Bova vs. Chris Liguori
cbs sucks they want this to do well? why would they put it on a wednesday night?
is it also going up against ufc ultimate fighter?
or does it end at 10?
if so im watching the ultimate fighter fights have been really exciting this season im sure 100x more exciting than the best match at this event


thats on the 31st bro saturday

[gtrplyr7]

cbs sucks they want this to do well? why would they put it on a wednesday night?
is it also going up against ufc ultimate fighter?
or does it end at 10?
if so im watching the ultimate fighter fights have been really exciting this season im sure 100x more exciting than the best match at this event

i dunno. i tape everything and watch it later.

Kimbo is always entertaining. They will get plenty of viewers.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

I'm certainly not denying BJ's skill set, however I feel that his conditioning will lose him the fight.
Take a look at his most recent fight with Joe Daddy... BJ was destroyed when that fight was over and it was only the second round. He could barely stand on his own. Sherk is going to be a lot harder to handle on the ground than Stevenson was.
BJ will gas and Sherk will take control in the 3rd.

Vega, if Penn submits Sherk, you can choose my custom (Admin cooperation required) or a signature.
*1 month duration for the sig.

[Vega]

that sounds good

also it looks like BJ will be in great shape judging from the training vids posted a few pages back

and i wish we could watch nit together fool
:(

[Dropping The Oppressor]

CBS card on 31st.
UFC is putting up and Iceman documentary on Spike against it.

I'll be watching the live fights and DVRing the Spike TV stuff.

Edit: Woops, Vega beat me to the correct date.

[Dropping The Oppressor]

8 second double knock-out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqGsZzwPD94

[Voxxamp]

Shonie Carter's reaction in that is almost the best part.

[habitat5life]

Sean Sherkvs. BJ Penn
Lyoto Machida vs. Tito Ortiz
Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva
Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia
Rameau Sokoudjou vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
Christian Wellisch vs. Shane Carwin
Antonio Mendes vs. Thiago Silva
John Koppenhaver vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Terry Etim vs. Rich Clementi
Ivan Salaverry vs. Rousimar Palhares
Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan

i hope BJ breaks sherks arm '
cant believe you picked roids over skills....

Truth.

[lastnightintown]

i just got done watching ken shamrock get his ass worked by tito. first ufc bought ive watched in awhile. tito is a beast to put it lightly.

[Cardinal]

Sean Sherk vs. BJ Penn
Lyoto Machida vs. Tito Ortiz
Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva
Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia
Rameau Sokoudjou vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
Christian Wellisch vs. Shane Carwin
Antonio Mendes vs. Thiago Silva
John Koppenhaver vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Terry Etim vs. Rich Clementi
Ivan Salaverry vs. Rousimar Palhares
Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan

.

i try to attribute penn being gassed at the end of the stevenson fight to being really excited about winning the title. maybe it's denial, maybe not. i just really want him to win. hopefully he comes out strong in at least the first 3 rounds and can put sherk away. i dont think sherk will finish him, no matter what. sherk is a wack champion (not only because of steroids, but because he produces somewhat boring fights and has no personality).

hopefully sokoudjou and wanderlei come out ready to kill

[PJP]

Also, Elite XC's "Primetime" event is on 5/21 on CBS...

Televised Bouts
Kimbo Slice vs. James Thompson
Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith
Phil Baroni vs. Joey Villasenor
Gina Carano vs. Kaitlin Young
Brett Rogers vs. Jon Murphy

Preliminary Bouts
Nick Serra vs. Matt Makowski
Zach Makovsky vs. Andre Soares
Wilson Reis vs. Justin Robbins
Mike Groves vs. Joe Sampieri
Carlton Haselrig vs. Joe McCall
Jim Bova vs. Chris Liguori

that's on the 31st, saturday night

[Imprint]

Sean Sherkvs. BJ Penn
Lyoto Machida vs. Tito Ortiz
Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva
Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia
Rameau Sokoudjou vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
Christian Wellisch vs. Shane Carwin
Antonio Mendes vs. Thiago Silva
John Koppenhaver vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida
Terry Etim vs. Rich Clementi
Ivan Salaverry vs. Rousimar Palhares
Dong-Hyun Kim vs. Jason Tan

i hope BJ breaks sherks arm '
cant believe you picked roids over skills....

same picks as me

[firmdragon]

Sean Sherkvs. BJ Penn
Lyoto Machida vs. Tito Ortiz
Keith Jardine vs. Wanderlei Silva
Goran Reljic vs. Wilson Gouveia
Rameau Sokoudjou vs. Kazuhiro Nakamura
Antonio Mendes vs. Thiago Silva
Terry Etim vs. Rich Clementi

should be some good fights

[Schmee]

GSP VS. FITCH TO HEADLINE UFC 87 - http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6330&zoneid=13

HEATH HERRING TO FACE BROCK LESNAR AT UFC 87 - http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6341&zoneid=13

[Dropping The Oppressor]

Heath vs. Brock:
I like that match up. Brock will most likely smash his ass, but Heath is always game.
He should keep it interesting.


UFC 84 is good so far.
Jardine vs. Silva getting ready to start. I won't post any spoilers for the other fights so far.

[manute]

nvm!

[Dropping The Oppressor]

^^^The first rule about Fight Club is...

[garrettchristmas]

if i hear "elusive" one more time....